What is your opinion of the A.J. Pierzynski signing?
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Ok everyone calm down. I just wanted to bring this proposition to the table:Would you mind the Rangers making this kind of trade? An MVP for a CY Young candidate? As much as I like Hamilton I think an Ace is more valuable to the team. I think Hamilton has 3 more years under team control maybe 2 while Johnson has 3 yrs reaming on his contract. Although the Marlins would ask for another high ceiling guy like Scheppers or Holland, I think I would sign off on this deal.
If it were to go through then I think Moreland would move to RF, Cruz to LF with Young and Napoli splitting time at 1B/DH. Heck if they want to make Murphy the every day LF, I wouldnt mind at all. Maybe bring up Chad Tracy from AAA for OF/DH depth.
Having a rotation of Johnson, Wilson, Lewis, Hunter and Kirkman/Feldman/Webb/Harrison outweights a line up lacking Hamilton if we still got Andrus, Kinsler, Young, Cruz, Beltre, Moreland and Napoli (1-7).Since Moreland and Napoli could easily match Young's and Hamitlon's HR totals (53) if they play regularly, the only downside would be the hitting average and OBP. But having Johnson as the Ace is way more valueable than the BA and OBP missing from a Hamilton departure.
Would you do it?
In a heartbeat I'd do this. I might even go Hamilton and Perez for JJ.
I you were JD would you do it? For say Hamilton and Scheppers?
I would trade Hamilton + any minor leaguer for Josh Johnson.
Hamilton plus KinslerforJJ plus Cohglan but u know only if the Marlins are in last place or something
The Marlins do not trade for stars. Never have, never will. They don't want the payroll obligations.
you're dreaming and you just wasted 2 minutes of my day..lol
You know that the point of a trade is to try and gain marginal wins right?
Josh Hamilton's WAR 2008-2010 = 13.3Josh Johnson's WAR 2008-2010 = 14
I still don't get everyone believing that Josh Johnson is the second coming of Christ. The guy has had 2 good years of pitching. Let me say that again. He's been good for 2 seasons, and by good I mean 5+ WAR. You are talking about trading the MVP and our future top of the rotation guy for a guy that has been good, but by no means untouchable for the last 2 years.
Hasn't Hamilton only been really good for about two years also?
Hamilton's been good for two year, except with a terrible year in between.
@all in--Why would you pick Moreland over Murphy?
I would sign Hambone and trade him for Johnson and pay half his salary...
Martin, Cohglan (how ever you spell his name) is gone.
rbt...is not like the Marlins cant flip Hamilton during or after this season if they cant sign him to an extension.
lmao! @ arb
Fishbait...hmmm just take a look at his numbers, did you already forget how he produced in the postseason too? This guy is a gamer and .850 OPS guy, and I also said I would mind going with Murphy in LF either.
@the natural...Hamilton has also been good for only 2 yrs, plus is injury prone and might not give the Rangers a discount for an extension.
Just put it this way whats easier to acquire, a 30HR/100RBI guy or a freaking ACE? How many Aces have we been able to acquire in the past 20 years? Thank you.
Not to be pickybut hHow much outfield has he played in the bigs?
I would not trade Hamilton. But I am not rational. Hamilton is my favorite player and would hate for him not to be a Ranger. Would the trade make us better? maybe, maybe not. But I would argue that all things being equal, Hamilton is the more marketable player and brings more value to the team in merchandise sales, national media attention, etc. Plus he's a leader and a everyday player that the rest of the team feeds off of. I'm not saying the trade idea proposed is stupid, just giving my opinion. Fire away
I would any player into discussions to acquire Johnson, except Hamilton.
I don't know what sort of career numbers Hamilton will end with. I hope he plays 10 more years in a Ranger uniform and each one of them is a carbon copy of 2010. He certainly has the talent to be a Mickey Mantle type.
But obviously we don't know whether his body will recover from the hell he put it through in his lost years. So it might be a winning trade if Texas got Johnson for Hamilton.
I still wouldn't do it.
Hamilton is the most exciting player that Texas has EVER had. I have been a Ranger fan since 1977 so I have seen Juan Gone, Ruben Sierra, Larry Parrish and all the other players who looked good. None has had a set of tools like Hambone: the speed, the stroke, the breathtaking power. He can turn a game around with any aspect of his skill.
You can't trade that unless you know that he has fallen off the wagon permanently and won't ever be the 2010 Josh again. And if you trade him in that context it has to be with the cold-blooded lying nature of a Kenny Williams "dump the injured player" trade. I don't know that JD could or would do that.
It seems like most of you disagree with me. That is cool. But for the record, there is no way I trade Hamilton for a SP straight up.
Someone mentioned why all the love for Josh Johnson.
I truly believe outside of Roy Halladay and King Felix, he is the single best player that would make the Rangers a better team. Not at the expense of Josh Hamilton though.
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