What is your opinion of the A.J. Pierzynski signing?
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Came across this on the Cubs ESPN page... http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/cubs/post/_/id/2715/busy-gm-meetings-for-cubs-sox
I'd love to hear thoughts on moving Chris Davis to the Cubs for Wellington Castillo or Robinson Chirinos.
Below are a couple of scouting reports I could find on a quick Google search for Castillo and Chirinos. I've only seen Castillo play a couple times last year but I know he's been one of the Cubs top prospects for the past couple years. Decent bat, strong arm, defense should improve. Don't know much about Robinson Chirinos other than he's a converted 2B/3B. But I sort of really like this idea. Might be good for Davis to get a fresh start and I've heard the Cubs are looking for a defensive-minded first baseman.
Richard Durrett's two cents and repost of the Chris Davis part of the article:http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/texas-rangers/post/_/id/4858474/cubs-interested-in-chris-davis
Just saw that too. I think a trade like this would make great sense for the Rangers. I'm a huge Chris Davis fan, but if Moreland is the guy than one of these young catchers could make some sense. The Chirinos guys offensive numbers look good, i.e. good average, some power, and high OBP, but I wander where he is catching wise since he's a converted infielder. Looks like he's throwing out guys at a decent rate so that might work. Anyone else have thoughts?
@ Amigo de Andrus:
Baseball-America had him as the best defensive catcher in the cubs system when they did organization rankings last year. FWIW
Bye bye, Chris Loser-Davis.
Chirinos' stats look great. Last year combined at AA and AAA hit .326 with 18 HR and 74 RBI in just over 300 plate appearances. He also threw out 32%!
He could make a huge splash...plus he ALSO can play some 3B and even 2B if needed.
Calling Chris Davis a "loser" is ridiculous. He was not drafted high, and totally overachieved to get to the big leagues. There, he was wildly inconsistent, and showed an inability to hit good major league pitching. To his defense, he was never given a full season to adjust, but was bounced back and forth on numerous occasions. Baseball is littered with guys like Chris Davis - who are very very good compared to the rest of us mortals, but who aren't able to hit .280 over a 12 year major league career. But it's not like he's 35 years old - he still has time to get it together and turn that last corner.
Calling him a "loser" is totally insulting, and says more about your lack of class Pryor than it does about him.
I'm a fan of a sport, since when was I expected to have class? I don't like the guy and if I want to show some class then I'll go to a formal event or something. We can call Jason Botts a loser but not Chris Davis? Give me a break and take your moral high horse somewhere else.
I still think CD has potential and I haven't given up on him yet -- however, to turn him for a catching prospect does interest me. Plus, I do believe the change of scenery might do him good and he might flourish in the NL. The Cubs fans won't be too terribly patient with him, but after a few long balls onto Waveland Ave, he might gain some support. It took Fukudome about a week to become a fan favorite there and about a month into the next season before people were ready to trade him.
"I don't like the guy."
Oh, my apologies, Pryor - I didn't know that you were personally acquainted with Mr. Davis.
For the record, I never agreed to calling Botts or any baseball player a "loser." Botts made it to pro baseball - to me that's a pretty awesome accomplishment, something that only a few hundred people in any given year out of billions can say they did.
You're just an everyday random dick who thinks being a fan gives one the right to be an asshole and call people who accomplish something that you will never accomplish a "loser" - which makes you the real "loser."
I've accomplished enough in my life, certainly things that Chris Davis would never be able to accomplish. It goes both ways, big guy. You aren't my mother so go lecture someone else about name calling. You are a nobody just like I am and your words mean very little to me.
You're calling me exactly what YOU are which is the silver lining in your comment to me. If I'm an everyday random dick then I guess that means I'm doing something right.
If my words mean very little to you, then why respond to them?
The bottom line is using language appropriately and precisely. If you want to say Chris Davis "sucks" - that I can totally understand. But to call him "Chris Loser-Davis" like you did here is quite another thing. Chris Davis is certainly not a "loser." But you certainly are a "dick," as evidenced by your comments.
You assume that by replying to you that means I put meaning into your words? I must put in a lot less effort into using a keyboard than you do.
Again, that just means I'm doing something right.
"Again, that just means I'm doing something right."
Uh... what are you "doing right" again? Oh yeah - being an illogical asshole. Yes, you're doing that right.
I don't think you're catching on to what I'm doing here.
You aren't doing anything here except being a dick. Put down whatever it is you're smoking, because you are sadly not half as clever as you think you are.
Forget it. It seems I'm arguing with someone that has the mental aptitude of a gnat.
I think that one can comment on the players' abilities and still respect them as people.
I understand why we are going after catchers, but these guys seem to be future backstops. We already have a few of those (Teagarden, Deglan, etc.). What about this year in the bigs? Who is a realistic shot for us?
Exactly, Bobby - which is why I bristle when I hear some dumb fan call a player a "loser" when they are talking about baseball ability & not character.
Pryor - fuck you. That's all that needs to be said to you.
Having that long of an e-argument puts you both pretty high on the loser scale...
Girls... You're both pretty.
OH. MY. GOD. Can I join in?
So, um, I'm just going to look the other way here and pretend this thread didn't happen. If somebody else wants to start up a slightly more civil Chris Davis thread, go for it.